NCIS - Semper Fidelis
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webbgirlI know I said I was going to wait until I watched the episode again to share my thoughts
There were parts of last night's episode that I LOVED.
-Tony being all confident and investigator like.
-Gibbs having a normal conversation with him that didn't sound like he was talking to an 8 year old.
-Ducky letting his obvious jealousy of Gibbs and Fornell's relationship out to play. *g*
-Gibbs being amused by Ducky trying to strangle Fornell.
-Fornell being around in general.
Then there was the stuff that was meh or just downright WTF. I should preface this by stating that I think there's a possibility many of my 'issues' will be cleared up in the second part next week. If they aren't? They definitely go in the WTF pile.
- The ICE agent. She still feels way hinky to me. If it doesn't turn out that she was in on the whole thing? I'm calling bullshit writing and acting. There are red herrings and then there are freakin' neon signs. Gibbs and Fornell apologizing? That falls under the neon sign category. Also? How does any decent agent of *any* agency just casually destroy evidence?
- The thing with Vance. I think the whole thing in Gibbs' basement is supposed to lead us (and Gibbs) to believe that we can trust Vance. That the Sec Nav has been in on whatever is 'shady' about him from the beginning. I'm wondering if this is a backout move on the writers parts. They wanted to make Vance this mysterious guy with a hinky past and went "CRAP! The audience didn't bite." and this is their way out. I could be wrong and it could still be part of a master plan, but given their lack of continuity skills I wouldn't be surprised if it floats away either.
I do have an alternate theory with this...Vance is being used (probably with his knowledge) to get specifically to Eli. The SecNav mentioned potential issues with Ziva. I'm wondering if the whole incident at the SecNav's house was a staged incident to get to Michael and Eli. The agent was never supposed to die. Ducky even said so. Possibly the ICE chick is in on it as well. It's possible that even Ziva was in on this. I don't think that her involvement with Michael was purely her being in love (but I'll get to her in a moment).
Have I mentioned that an overload of espionage crap makes my head hurt?
I think there are more secrets going on here than what we saw in the "Season of Secrets". There are agendas up the wazzoo and Gibbs and his team are being played.
Now to Ziva. The whole Ziva thing (whether it involves TIVA crap or not) is just horrible.
Let's look at the options:
1) She was truly in love with Michael and believed that he was really there just to see her. Umm...this leads me to believe that she is THE WORST MOSSAD AGENT EVER! She knew what happened in L.A. There's no way she could just fall for the idea that he stuck around in the country after that mess just to spend time with her. Unless she has some brain damage working from making moon-eyes at Tony. *cough* sorry
2) She's working for the Mossad to try and catch Michael without the knowledge of Vance or anyone else in the U.S. Or possibly to get info on NCIS. This one's a bit fuzzy. If that's the case, how does she ever get re-integrated into the team. SB has stated over and over again that nobody is leaving the show. I don't see how Gibbs or any of the others could possibly trust her after something like that. She put all of their lives in danger.
3) She's working *with* Vance's knowledge (or the SecNav...again with the espionage crap). I have issues with this as well. It more closely parallels Tony's time with Jeanne, but it still lead to a situation that put the team in danger. Her reactions to Tony (and a particular scene in the previews for next week) make me doubt this one though.
I'm just not seeing how with any of these scenarios the team goes back to functioning well again. How does she get over her anger with Tony for killing Michael? How does Gibbs get over her lying to him and the team for the Mossad?
Another part that I have a potential issue with (depending on how it plays out next week) is Tony being made to look like a jealous guy who shot Ziva's boyfriend. I know that we can see the truth, but the bits and pieces set up through the show could point an investigation in that direction. Thank god for Abby being the one to find the connection of the internet at Ziva's place.
My potentially HUGE issue with this is if Gibbs buys into Tony killing Rivkin for anything but self-defence. That happens, even for a second? I'm setting my DVDs on repeat and remembering the good old days. I just feel like Tony has gotten the brunt of crap on everything, especially this season. I want to see *someone* (okay, specifically Gibbs) have his back all the way for once.
Feel free to comment, disect, quibble...
Unrelated, but can someone please talk me out of going to see a certain movie *again*? This is the problem with falling in love with movie shiny as opposed to TV shiny. I have to wait for the DVDs or find 'alternate' means of getting my fix. Hmph.
There were parts of last night's episode that I LOVED.
-Tony being all confident and investigator like.
-Gibbs having a normal conversation with him that didn't sound like he was talking to an 8 year old.
-Ducky letting his obvious jealousy of Gibbs and Fornell's relationship out to play. *g*
-Gibbs being amused by Ducky trying to strangle Fornell.
-Fornell being around in general.
Then there was the stuff that was meh or just downright WTF. I should preface this by stating that I think there's a possibility many of my 'issues' will be cleared up in the second part next week. If they aren't? They definitely go in the WTF pile.
- The ICE agent. She still feels way hinky to me. If it doesn't turn out that she was in on the whole thing? I'm calling bullshit writing and acting. There are red herrings and then there are freakin' neon signs. Gibbs and Fornell apologizing? That falls under the neon sign category. Also? How does any decent agent of *any* agency just casually destroy evidence?
- The thing with Vance. I think the whole thing in Gibbs' basement is supposed to lead us (and Gibbs) to believe that we can trust Vance. That the Sec Nav has been in on whatever is 'shady' about him from the beginning. I'm wondering if this is a backout move on the writers parts. They wanted to make Vance this mysterious guy with a hinky past and went "CRAP! The audience didn't bite." and this is their way out. I could be wrong and it could still be part of a master plan, but given their lack of continuity skills I wouldn't be surprised if it floats away either.
I do have an alternate theory with this...Vance is being used (probably with his knowledge) to get specifically to Eli. The SecNav mentioned potential issues with Ziva. I'm wondering if the whole incident at the SecNav's house was a staged incident to get to Michael and Eli. The agent was never supposed to die. Ducky even said so. Possibly the ICE chick is in on it as well. It's possible that even Ziva was in on this. I don't think that her involvement with Michael was purely her being in love (but I'll get to her in a moment).
Have I mentioned that an overload of espionage crap makes my head hurt?
I think there are more secrets going on here than what we saw in the "Season of Secrets". There are agendas up the wazzoo and Gibbs and his team are being played.
Now to Ziva. The whole Ziva thing (whether it involves TIVA crap or not) is just horrible.
Let's look at the options:
1) She was truly in love with Michael and believed that he was really there just to see her. Umm...this leads me to believe that she is THE WORST MOSSAD AGENT EVER! She knew what happened in L.A. There's no way she could just fall for the idea that he stuck around in the country after that mess just to spend time with her. Unless she has some brain damage working from making moon-eyes at Tony. *cough* sorry
2) She's working for the Mossad to try and catch Michael without the knowledge of Vance or anyone else in the U.S. Or possibly to get info on NCIS. This one's a bit fuzzy. If that's the case, how does she ever get re-integrated into the team. SB has stated over and over again that nobody is leaving the show. I don't see how Gibbs or any of the others could possibly trust her after something like that. She put all of their lives in danger.
3) She's working *with* Vance's knowledge (or the SecNav...again with the espionage crap). I have issues with this as well. It more closely parallels Tony's time with Jeanne, but it still lead to a situation that put the team in danger. Her reactions to Tony (and a particular scene in the previews for next week) make me doubt this one though.
I'm just not seeing how with any of these scenarios the team goes back to functioning well again. How does she get over her anger with Tony for killing Michael? How does Gibbs get over her lying to him and the team for the Mossad?
Another part that I have a potential issue with (depending on how it plays out next week) is Tony being made to look like a jealous guy who shot Ziva's boyfriend. I know that we can see the truth, but the bits and pieces set up through the show could point an investigation in that direction. Thank god for Abby being the one to find the connection of the internet at Ziva's place.
My potentially HUGE issue with this is if Gibbs buys into Tony killing Rivkin for anything but self-defence. That happens, even for a second? I'm setting my DVDs on repeat and remembering the good old days. I just feel like Tony has gotten the brunt of crap on everything, especially this season. I want to see *someone* (okay, specifically Gibbs) have his back all the way for once.
Feel free to comment, disect, quibble...
Unrelated, but can someone please talk me out of going to see a certain movie *again*? This is the problem with falling in love with movie shiny as opposed to TV shiny. I have to wait for the DVDs or find 'alternate' means of getting my fix. Hmph.
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on 2009-05-13 09:59 pm (UTC)As for the ICE agent, assuming that she used her real voice in Dexter, she's British and has a pretty strong accent. I think a lot of her delivery of lines is hobbled by the fact that she has to speak like an American...sort of.
It's really strange. I didn't watch NCIS when it first came out, but skrippy and becc convinced me I should try it, so I watched S1 & 2 (I think...) and started watching live after that. I really enjoyed it for a while, but now, it's almost background noise. The last few eps have been so convoluted and out of character for so many, that I tend to zone out while watching.
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on 2009-05-13 10:04 pm (UTC)I could tell that she actually has a Brit accent, and I think that it did probably play into some of the delivery. I still think things are hinky based on other people's reactions to her and the whole Gibbs/Fornell thing. It's waaaay out of character for them.
I keep hoping that the show will get back on track and give me the characters/team that I love again. Sadly, I think I am destined to be disappointed.