The Last of the Time Lords
Jun. 30th, 2007 05:17 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
First, I probably should have waited until I was in a better mood until I watched this. But I didn't. However, I still loved the episode. I've seen quite a few reviews from folks who hated it. I think one of the things is that RTD is an OTT kinda guy no matter what. I expect that sort of thing from him. I thought it kicked all sorts of ass.
Second, before I get on to actual episode stuff...clearly Lucy = Drusilla. I mean the scene when she first comes walking in in that red dress was full on Dru.
Okay, now on to the episode. I loved the action in this episode, but it broke my heart too (seriously still sniffling here). I mean, they give us kick-ass Martha through the whole thing and then she has the courage to do the thing that Rose never could. Make the choice to live for herself and not The Doctor. I know that she'll most likely be back next season, but there is a deep part of me that hopes she'll have hooked up with Hotty McPediatrician by then and moved on with her life. I think it would be a wonderful transition and balance to the Doctor.
One of my guesses on the Toclafane was that they were the humans (I'd seen other folks speculate this as well). It falls into place with the whole thing about breaking the Doctor's hearts.
And the Master. OMG. David Tennant just rocked in the scene while he was holding the Master while he was dying. I just...wow. Total canon pairing with that one. I expect to see many AUs where the Master agrees to go off with the Doctor in the Tardis.
Okay, the thing about Jack being The Face of Boe. Someone had posted a speculation about this on one of the comms last week. Several folks called possibly crackiness. Just goes to show that fandom's crack is RTD's canon. The thing is, the way it was a throw-away line, it could easily turn out to be a coincidence or somehow not really related. Then again...I'm going to have to go back and watch the Boe eps again now to see what got retconned and what fits with this.
Anyhoo, I'll be viewing again later when I'm hopefully in a better mood. Then I'll start the countdown until Christmas.
Oooo...before I forget! So if The Doctor=Tinkerbell, does that make Jack Peter Pan?
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on 2007-07-01 01:18 am (UTC)Sorry for the random commenting... But I needed to gush about this episode to someone that understands... My one friend who watches, hasn't seen this series yet, so I have to wait until she watches them all, thus I can't post anything on my LJ that is spoily out of love for her!! :)
Can't wait to see how RTD explains the Tardis getting hit by the Titanic!! Christmas isn't going to come fast enough for me!
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on 2007-07-01 01:48 am (UTC)Of course, this will involve many re-viewings of Doctor Who and Torchwood. *g*
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on 2007-07-01 02:09 am (UTC)no subject
on 2007-07-01 08:15 pm (UTC)She was definitely insane enough to be Drusilla. Though it was never outright explained why she was so nuts, I took it that the Master made her his companion and took her to the end of the universe, and what she saw made her lose her mind.
Was she the one who took the Master's ring from the funeral pyre? It seemed at the end she had also turned against him, joining in with the others saying the Doctor's name, but if she's gone round the bend, she may have regrets and took the ring thinking it would bring him back.
Though it does bring to mind a recurring question among Who fans... can a Time Lord regenerate as another gender? IIRC, they actually did this in a radio drama, but nothing canon on the show itself.
In the original series, the Master had run out of regenerations and at one point had his consciousness jumping into other bodies to survive. I assume when the Time Lords revived him, that reset the number of regenerations he had. What if he refused to regenerate at the time, but jumped into someone else, such as Lucy? S/he could possibly manage to regenerate later on.
I mean, they give us kick-ass Martha through the whole thing and then she has the courage to do the thing that Rose never could. Make the choice to live for herself and not The Doctor.
I still have a love/hate thing with Martha. When she kicks ass, I love her. When she whines about the Doctor not being in love with her, I hate her (well, not hate, but it does make me cringe), especially when the spin is she's only doing the ass kicking because she loves the Doctor. It wouldn't bother me so much if it was in the sense of love for a friend, but the constant romantic whinging got on my last nerve.
At least at the end she does seem to realize this about herself and removes herself from the situation, at least for the time being. Perhaps the time away will break the crush cycle, especially if she hooks up with hottie doctor and/or works with Torchwood a bit.
I have been hearing rumors about Martha appearing as recurring not only on Who, but on Torchwood too. I could easily see her finding something unusual and calling Jack, or vice versa. Maybe they form a "Former Companion Support Group." *g*
One of my guesses on the Toclafane was that they were the humans (I'd seen other folks speculate this as well). It falls into place with the whole thing about breaking the Doctor's hearts.
I'm thinking the Master went back to the end of the universe and set up the myth of Sancutary to lure in desperate humans and created the Toclafane out of them. So his previous incarnation of Professor Yana was unknowingly (or subconsciously) sending the people he thought he was saving out to his future self to be killed. [ow] Time travel makes my brain hurt. But it not only breaks the Doctor's hearts they were humans, but he himself made it where the Master could only travel between two fixed points in time. Once again, his actions trying to prevent one disaster caused another.
I do wonder about the "futurekind" we saw in Utopia... natural (de)evolution or more work of the Master?
Then again...I'm going to have to go back and watch the Boe eps again now to see what got retconned and what fits with this.
It does make sense that Boe would know details about the Doctor if he was a future evolution of Jack. But... the Doctor (and the TARDIS) instinctively have been running from Jack ever since he became a "fixed point in time" so wouldn't the Doctor have sensed whatever it is he senses from Jack and made the connection?
I did think it's a nice save that Jack's still aging, however slowly, but can't die, to cover for the actor aging. This was always an issue in the Highlander series because the actors weren't as unchanging as their characters were supposed to be. *g*
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on 2007-07-01 08:26 pm (UTC)I'm really digging the idea of Martha heading to Torchwood on occasion to help out. It's a way to cross the two shows over, without having the kiddies miss out on anything really. She'd be so much better a foil for Jack than Gwen is. Plus she'd kick Owen's ass.
I've seen several folks go into denial about the FoB thing (which is now clearly what John Barrowman and David Tennant were squeeing about like school boys). I just don't see why some folks hate it so vehemently. I mean, it's a bit of retconning and there are holes (which, not exactly a first in Whodom or sci-fi in general) but it's not a horrific idea. I think some folks object to the idea that they know that that's what Jack is going to turn into. I don't understand that. It's not like he's going to be some head in a jar starting at the end of Series 2 Torchwood or anything. This is waaaay in the future. I think I'm going to go back and watch the Series 1 ep with Boe once I watch the Confidential.
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on 2007-07-01 09:10 pm (UTC)I don't think it's just objecting to the idea of what Jack is turning into, but just... it comes across as mindfuckery from TPTB. I'm betting the "WTF?" reaction from the Doctor, Martha and the audience is all we'll ever see of that bit. That was the full intent -- a shocking twist, but one that doesn't have to be fully explained and we'll never know if it's really what we think it is.
I don't object really, I just find I don't really care all that much, because I know it's something that will probably never be referred to again. Shocking plot twists tend to get a jaw drop out of me, but unless there's follow up, that's all it gets.